There is one argument vegans can't debunk (vegans kill animals too)

The debate surrounding veganism is often charged with emotion and a range of arguments, some of which are frequently repeated without thorough examination. A common claim encountered by those exploring or adopting a plant-based lifestyle is the assertion that “vegans kill animals too,” often followed by the argument that plant agriculture is responsible for more animal deaths than animal agriculture. The video above delves into the specifics of this claim, dissecting its origins and the data often used to support it. This article aims to expand upon that discussion, providing a comprehensive, evidence-based analysis to definitively address the misconception that a plant-based diet causes more animal deaths than a non-vegan diet.

Understanding the full scope of agricultural impacts, from land use to the specific fates of animals, is crucial for anyone seeking to make informed dietary choices. It will be demonstrated how the commonly cited figures are often misrepresented or taken out of context, and how, when properly analyzed, the data consistently points towards a plant-based approach as the more ethical and less destructive option for animal life.

Deconstructing the Soy Myth: Who Really Consumes the Most?

A frequently heard argument, championed by figures such as Ted Nugent, centers on the idea that soy production is inherently destructive to wildlife. It is often claimed that vast numbers of animals are killed to grow crops like soy for human consumption. However, a closer look at global soy production reveals a very different picture of consumption and responsibility.

Global statistics indicate that a substantial majority of soy, approximately 75 to 80%, is directed towards animal agriculture, primarily as feed for livestock. This means that for every acre of soy cultivated, the overwhelming portion contributes to the meat, dairy, and egg industries. In stark contrast, only around 6% of the world’s soy is processed for direct human consumption, appearing in products like tofu, tempeh, or soy milk.

Therefore, if a concern about animal deaths in soy fields is genuinely held, the most impactful action would be to reduce support for the industries that utilize the vast majority of this crop. The narrative that vegans are solely responsible for agricultural deaths linked to soy production is largely inaccurate; the demand for animal products drives the cultivation of most soy, and consequently, any associated crop-related animal deaths.

Land Use and Animal Lives: Comparing Agricultural Footprints

Beyond specific crops, the sheer scale of land required for different dietary patterns offers a crucial perspective on animal mortality. Arguments are frequently made by individuals like Chris Kresser, suggesting that plant agriculture claims an astonishing 7.3 billion animal lives annually, implying it surpasses the toll of animal farming. However, these figures are often presented in isolation, without the necessary context of global animal agriculture deaths and the land area required for each system.

Firstly, the number of animals killed for meat, dairy, and eggs is staggering. In the United States alone, over 9.5 billion land animals are slaughtered each year. When marine animals are factored into global estimates, this figure skyrockets to an estimated 55 billion annually. These numbers dwarf the highly debated figures attributed to crop production, suggesting that direct animal agriculture is overwhelmingly responsible for a greater number of animal deaths.

Secondly, agricultural land usage paints a clear picture. According to data from the USDA, 77.3 million acres of land in the U.S. are dedicated to growing plants for direct human consumption. This is compared to 127.4 million acres used to cultivate plants specifically for animal feed, representing 65% more land. When the additional 654 million acres of pasture and rangeland in the U.S. for grazing livestock are considered, the total land footprint of animal farming becomes approximately 10 times larger than that for plants grown directly for human consumption. Globally, the most comprehensive analyses suggest that animal farming utilizes 83% of all agricultural land, demonstrating the immense spatial demands of the industry.

Scrutinizing the “7.3 Billion Deaths” Claim

The Authors’ Own Caveats

The alarming figure of 7.3 billion animal deaths annually due to plant agriculture, often cited from a 2018 paper, demands careful scrutiny. What is frequently overlooked is that the authors of the paper themselves questioned the accuracy of this estimate. In their own words, they stated, “The estimate should be reduced. 7.3 billion is clearly too high.” This critical self-correction by the researchers is often omitted by those who use the statistic to argue against plant-based diets.

It becomes evident that a surface-level reading or selective quotation of research can distort its true findings. The actual paper, when read in full, provides a nuanced perspective that often dismantles the very argument it is purported to support. This highlights the importance of consulting original sources and understanding the context in which scientific data is presented.

Movement Versus Mortality: A Critical Distinction

Further invalidating the high mortality estimates in crop fields is a 2004 study by Cavia et al. This research examined the effects of wheat and corn harvesting on grass mice populations in central Argentina. It compared mouse numbers in crop fields, bordering regions, and the wider surrounding area, tracking “disappearances” which included both deaths and migration.

The study found that while mouse numbers in the fields significantly decreased after harvest, their populations substantially increased in the border regions. Critically, there was no significant difference in “disappearances” between the three habitats. The conclusion reached was that changes in field animal numbers were “the consequences of movement and not of high[er] mortality in crops.” This suggests that many animals, particularly highly mobile ones like mice with acute hearing, are likely to flee the disturbance of agricultural machinery rather than passively await death. The loud noise and ground vibrations of combine harvesters serve as powerful deterrents, prompting animals to seek refuge in adjacent areas.

Revisiting Steven Davis’s Argument: Misconceptions Corrected

The “crop deaths” argument has roots that stretch back to a 2003 article by Steven Davis, who posited that an omnivorous diet centered on ruminant meat was more ethical than a plant-based one. His reasoning was predicated on the assumption that plant-based food production resulted in more animal deaths per hectare compared to grass-fed beef. However, Davis’s argument suffered from a critical flaw: it incorrectly assumed that the same amount of food (specifically, protein) would be produced on the same amount of land, regardless of whether it was used for crops or grazing animals.

This assumption overlooks a fundamental truth of agricultural productivity: one hectare of land devoted to growing plants can yield significantly more usable protein than the same area used for grazing animals. For instance, UN data indicates that 1,000 kilograms of protein can be produced on a single hectare of land growing plants, whereas it would require 10 hectares to produce the same amount of protein from grass-fed beef. When Davis’s own figures for animal deaths (7.5 animals/hectare for beef vs. 15 animals/hectare for plants) are applied to this corrected land-to-protein ratio, his argument unexpectedly reverses.

Upon correction, Davis’s numbers actually suggest that a plant-based diet is responsible for approximately five times fewer animal deaths than a diet including ruminant meat. This recalculation transforms his original claim into a compelling argument for veganism, demonstrating how flawed assumptions can entirely misrepresent ethical conclusions in agricultural discussions.

The Australian Mouse Plague: A Geographic and Agricultural Misinterpretation

Another widely circulated argument against veganism, particularly championed by figures like Mike Archer in his 2011 article and later by individuals such as Steven Crowder, claims that wheat production leads to 25 times more sentient animal deaths per kilogram of usable protein compared to grass-fed beef. This assertion is often attributed to the phenomenon of mouse plagues in Australia. While mouse plagues are a genuine and serious issue in Australia, affecting millions of mice and causing farmers to deploy poisons, their relevance to the global debate on plant-based diets is frequently misinterpreted.

A Localized Problem, Not a Global Justification

Firstly, mouse plagues are predominantly an Australian problem, with occasional occurrences in China, but rarely elsewhere. Utilizing a localized issue from one specific region as a universal justification against a plant-based diet worldwide is illogical. For a vegan in the UK or the US, for example, the existence of mouse plagues in Australia holds little direct bearing on the ethics of their dietary choices. This geographical specificity is often overlooked when the article is shared as a broad indictment of plant agriculture.

Impact on All Agriculture, Not Just Vegan Crops

Secondly, the mouse plagues do not selectively target crops destined for human consumption by vegans. They impact the entire agricultural landscape. Hay and silage, crucial feeds for “grass-fed” animals during seasonal changes or when pasture is nutritionally insufficient, are also harvested using machinery and are highly susceptible to mouse infestations. Reports from farmers during mouse plagues confirm that hay can be ruined by mouse droppings and urine, potentially sickening cattle. Sorghum, another grass used for feed, is also heavily impacted by mice, leading to significant financial losses for farmers raising cattle.

Even pastureland, where cattle graze, is not immune to mouse plagues. Documents from agricultural platforms like Feed Central, Australia’s largest hay-selling platform, provide guidance on “Managing a Mice Plague in Hay Stacks,” specifically recommending bait stations around “Fodder & Grain storage.” This demonstrates that the issue permeates all forms of agriculture, including those supporting animal industries.

Misrepresenting Data: The Archer Article’s Flaw

Furthermore, Mike Archer’s article is criticized for misrepresenting data regarding the frequency and extent of mouse plagues. The Cooperative Research Centre notes that annually, between 100,000 and 500,000 hectares of grain crops in Australia are affected, suggesting that in an average year, only 2.3 percent of Australian grain cropland is hit by plague. When Archer’s figure of 55 deaths per hectare of grain is recalculated to apply only to this 2.3 percent, the mortality rate for grain drops to 1.27 animals per hectare.

When these corrected figures are used to compare protein yields, it is estimated that 2.2 animals are killed per 100 kilograms of usable grass-fed protein, compared to only 0.7 animals killed for 100 kilograms of usable wheat protein. Importantly, the 2.2 animal deaths for grass-fed protein do not even account for the animals killed during the harvesting of hay, silage, and other supplementary feeds required by these animals, meaning the actual number for grass-fed systems would be even higher. Therefore, when the data is accurately applied, even the mouse plague argument reinforces that a plant-based diet is responsible for fewer animal deaths.

The Unavoidable Suffering in Animal Agriculture

While discussions about crop deaths focus on incidental mortalities, it is crucial to acknowledge the systemic and often horrific suffering inherent in animal agriculture. This suffering is not a side effect but an integral part of the production process for meat, dairy, and eggs. Animals within these industries are subjected to a range of procedures and conditions that inflict immense pain and distress.

For example, practices such as forced impregnation, the removal of babies from their mothers, and various mutilations (e.g., tail docking, castration, dehorning, disbudding, branding) are routine in many farming operations. These procedures are frequently performed without anesthetics, causing significant and prolonged pain. Animals endure stressful and often prolonged transportation to slaughterhouses, sometimes for up to 48 hours in countries like Australia, without adequate food, water, or rest. Upon arrival, they face a terrifying ordeal before their eventual death by throat cutting. This direct and intentional infliction of suffering, often on conscious animals, constitutes a level of harm that is fundamentally different from the indirect and largely unintentional deaths that may occur during crop harvesting. The animals raised for consumption are prisoners within a system with no chance of escape from the violence inflicted upon them, a stark contrast to wildlife in crop fields who retain agency to flee.

Beyond Deaths: The Environmental and Ethical Imperative of Plant-Based Diets

The ethical consideration of a plant-based diet extends beyond minimizing immediate animal deaths to encompass broader environmental and moral imperatives. A significant shift to a plant-based global diet would free up an astonishing 75% of current agricultural land. This land area is equivalent in size to the combined landmasses of Australia, China, the European Union, and the United States. Such a vast amount of land, currently used for livestock and their feed, could be reforested and restored, offering unparalleled benefits for biodiversity and ecosystem health.

A report from Chatham House, a world-leading policy institute, underscores this point, stating, “Setting aside land for biodiversity to the exclusion of other uses, including farming, and either protecting or restoring natural habitat would offer the most benefit to biodiversity across a given landscape.” This rewilding potential is a powerful argument for plant-based systems, enabling natural habitats to flourish and addressing the biodiversity crisis.

Moreover, with rapid advancements in agricultural technology, such as vertical farming and controlled environment agriculture, the future holds the promise of even more efficient and less impactful food production. As cited in the very study that Chris Kresser referenced, “Agriculture has taken a wide variety of forms throughout history, and current trends would seem to raise the serious possibility that plant agriculture might someday kill very few animals—perhaps even none.” This vision emphasizes that a plant-based diet is not merely the most ethical choice today but is also becoming increasingly more ethical as technology progresses.

Ultimately, a plant-based diet represents the most effective strategy for minimizing both direct animal suffering and indirect animal deaths, including those associated with crop production. By choosing plant-based foods, individuals contribute to a system that uses less land, requires fewer resources, and has a significantly reduced impact on the natural world, allowing for greater biodiversity and a more compassionate coexistence with all living beings.

Your Questions on Veganism’s Unavoidable Impact

What is the main myth about veganism discussed in the article?

The article addresses the myth that ‘vegans kill animals too,’ which claims that growing plants for human consumption causes more animal deaths than animal farming.

Is soy production for human consumption a major cause of animal deaths?

No, most soy (about 75-80%) grown globally is used as feed for livestock in animal agriculture, not for direct human consumption in products like tofu or soy milk.

Which uses more land and causes more animal deaths: plant agriculture for humans or animal agriculture?

Animal agriculture uses significantly more land and is responsible for far more animal deaths annually compared to growing plants directly for human consumption.

Is the claim that plant agriculture causes billions of animal deaths accurate?

No, the researchers behind a frequently cited figure of 7.3 billion animal deaths from plant agriculture stated it was ‘clearly too high,’ and studies show many animals often flee harvest machinery rather than die.

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